Come Home With Me: “From having money on my mind to money in my pocket.” You even say “no emotion over here.” Tan Leather brings a really different emotional content than what we’re used to from you. Can you talk about the vibe of that song and where you’re coming from.
Action Bronson: It
was just pretty much the music. Sean from Party Supplies wrote that on the
piano and on the road. I was just in the fuckin’ zone. I don’t try to stay on
topic or nothing like that. You know different types of things, they make you
feel different things and you rap about it and sing about it in your music.
CHWM: You’re
background as a chef is really evident in your music. How did you go from
Action in the Kitchen to Action Bronson?
Action Bronson: Who
knows? (laughs) It kinda just transformed, I just took a liking to rapping and
that was that. I broke the leg in the kitchen and from then on I just became a
fuckin’ professional rapper.
CHWM: I wish I
could rap.
Action Bronson: Listen,
you don’t wanna rap, you have to do things, you have to come here and rap in
front of people. You have to go to Salt Lake City and rap in front of people.
CHWM: It’s not fun?
Action Bronson: I
love it, but I’m, saying, I have to be away from family and shit like that. But
I’m not complaining, it’s a good time. I always wanted to do nothing, I dreamt
about doing nothing.
CHWM: What are some
of your favorite foods?
Action Bronson: I
try new things everyday. But I would say bagel and eggs from my mother man.
Just get the bagel from the neighborhood, Utopia bagels, they make the best joints.
She cuts it up with the butter knife so you get some edges, some scrambled eggs
soft, softly scrambled.
CHWM: With cheese?
Action Bronson: Naw,
I’m not the cheese and eggs type of guy.
CHWM: Your
knowledge and homage to the past on Dr. Lechter was incredible. I know you’ve
mentioned Kool G Rap being a major influence, who else inspired you to pick up
the pen?
Action Bronson: Everybody
from Wu-Tang from Nas, Mobb Deep, everybody that I listened to when I was
young. I knew everybody’s raps by heart, so off top I’m gonna come in the game
and I’m gonna fuckin’ rap the way I know until you get your own voice and this
and that. I think going back to people always comparing me to Ghostface, that’s
an honorable comparison and that’s my man, he’s a fuckin’ stand up human being,
I fuck with him heavy. I think people got over that quickly, I mean I wouldn’t
be where I’m at if they didn’t.
CHWM: At first the
comparisons were really out there, but I feel like they’ve totally disappeared
now.
Action Bronson: Ghost
is definitely one of my favorite rappers, I can definitely recite entire albums
of him, I can recite entire albums of Nas, I can recite entire albums of M.O.P.
All these people influenced me in my music and not even Hip Hop shit, things that
I listened to growing up, like Spanish music.
CHWM: That’s really
clear in even the samples you use.
Action Bronson: All
that type of shit, that’s just what I do.
CHWM: Why do you
think the Ghostface comparisons stopped so much?
Action Bronson: I
don’t know, it’s not something that everybody said, like “omg this is Ghostface
reincarnated.” I remind everybody of the Golden Age, that’s just what it is. It’s
just what rap use to sound like, the shit that they remember from rap. I got 35
year old men coming up to me, 40 year old men, coming up to me like “oh man you’re
the fuckin’ greatest, you remind me of Pun, Nas, Easy-E.” I just remind people
of the Golden Age, I’ll never be caught up in that, I’m 3k, I’m not on that old
shit.
CHWM: That’s
interesting, because this year New York with Hip Hop has gotten huge backlash,
but your name has been constantly mentioned as one of the only New York rappers
to keep it real. What are your thoughts on that?
Action Bronson: I’m
fuckin’ from New York, I don’t give a fuck, that’s rap straight up, bottom
line, that’s where rap is from. I don’t care about anything else. Good music is
good music, if you make good music, people are gonna like it. It doesn’t have
to be mainstream, it doesn’t have to be on the radio 24 fuckin’ 7. You don’t
need that to have a career. There’s plenty of people that tread the line. I
made a career off the Internet, are you kidding me? It’s a big fuckin’ joke. At
the end of the day, just do what you feel, make your art and people are gonna
like it or they won’t and that’s really what it is. I been doing this now,
first time I put a joint out was three years ago and I always rep New York, I
don’t know anything else. So that’s always what I’m gonna do.
CHWM: Are you
interested in achieving more mainstream success or radio play?
Action Bronson: I
don’t give a fuck about anything honestly, I just do my music and if people
like it, they like it. I sometimes shoot myself in the foot, I’m being brutally
honest with you right now. You know sometimes motherfuckas be like this song is
gold and I be wishy washy. I’m a victim of it, I’m not even gonna front. That’s
being brutal. Sometimes you’re your own worst enemy. But you gotta keep your reputation
in tact. Because when all this other bullshit is over, you’re only gonna have
what you built yourself and your character. That’s the only thing that’s gonna
take you through life, is the character that you built. Fuck all that flashy
shit, quick money, it’s gonna be gone in two seconds. It’s about longevity.
CHWM: That’s
exactly what I was gonna say, it’s about longevity.
Action Bronson: You
build fans, you tour a lot. I touch people, I see people everyday. I don’t do
interviews, I did this because of the article you wrote about me. You showed me
love. That’s why I did this.
CHWM: Wow, I didn’t
know you read it, thank you, that’s how much you inspire me. One thing that I
found out is that you do graffiti.
Action Bronson: I’ve
always done graffiti.
CHWM: Have you ever
incorporated your own artwork on your cover art or into your music?
Action Bronson: I
incorporate into the music yeah. Everybody that I know is through graffiti,
that’s how I met all my friends. If it wasn’t for graffiti, there wouldn’t be
any me, any rap. That’s pretty the much the basis of it all. And sometimes it’s
corny to be like fuckin’ with the elements. But I met all my homies through
graffiti, we all did graffiti together and now we just live life. I do it all
over the place, give me a can, I’ll do something right now.
CHWM: Let’s get
this man a can haha. But your imagination is so vivid, how do you develop the
elaborate stories you tell in your songs?
Action Bronson: I’m
an only child, you have to have an imagination. You gotta make stories up and play
lands. You just smoke weed and fuckin’ sit there. I look at things differently.
I know everybody’s gonna say that, but I really do look at things differently.
CHWM: One of my
favorite moments of Blue Chips 2 is
the Practice rant. 2013 was the ten-year anniversary of the original press release
and it’s so damn epic. I know this tape was a collab with Party Supplies but
did you have input on some of the hilarious samples?
Action Bronson: Absolutely,
we worked together on that shit. We would be sitting there going through records,
going through samples, going through music, we just do it together. The whole
project was done collaboratively.
CHWM: Dope, it was
dope to have him here tonight too.
Action Bronson: He’s
amazing, he’s on tour with him. Hopefully I can bring him through Australia and
through Europe and hopefully Japan. I wanna bring him everywhere. He deserves
it and he fuckin’ rips it up on the fuckin’ guitar. That’s a big part of the
show right there. I’m gonna do “[Amadu] Diablo” with the defender.
CHWM: One of my
favorite lines is “My silhouette resembles Jesus in all seasons.” You’ve kind of
pioneered this sub genre of Hip Hop, incredibly lyrical but also really
hilarious material. Is that a conscious decision to be a comedic rapper?
Action Bronson: That’s
just my personality. You have to let yourself show in your music or else what
are you doing it for? I don’t make candy shit. I write what I feel at the time.
It might not always have a structure all the time, but there’s some sort of
melodic element. It’s always gonna make you laugh or something’s gonna make you
go “wooh what?” You go through a lot of emotions listening to me. It’s like a
soap opera. It’s like daytime TV but good daytime TV, like Days of our Lives, All My children, Dynasty, it makes you feel like
that.
CHWM: So is there a
TV show in the future?
Action Bronson: Who
knows man, I’m trying to get fuckin’ actor money. So why not? I can do it. If
Ja Rule, if Coolio can be in a fuckin’ movie, I can be in a movie.
CHWM: What movie
would you create?
Action Bronson: I
don’t know, some sort of obscure sports maybe. Something like Worlds Strongest
Man, that’s like very depressed. I have to go through my mind for the script, I
can’t give it all out.
CHWM: Next
interview we’ll talk about that. You mentioned before you’re been on tour almost
nonstop and I’m pretty sure I’ve made it to every tour, but what always amazes
me is how genuine and thrilling your performance is every time. How do you keep
your set authentic performing every night and often the same songs?
Action Bronson: These
songs I’m doing now off Blue Chips 2
are pretty new, I haven’t performed them at any other place. I haven’t
performed for the whole last three months of the year. So this is all fresh to
me, I don’t practice, I just literally go out and do the show.
CHWM: You the
franchise player.
Action Bronson: Exactly,
I’ve got to this level, we know that I can rap. It’s not like I’m over here
fuckin’ around. You know I’m gonna come through and rap. I’m not gonna rap over
my adlibs. I’m gonna rap over a beat, just my voice, nothing else is playing,
just me the whole time for an hour. And I go out there and I adlib, whatever
the moment is, that’s all I do. I don’t got out and fuckin’ plan my shit, it
don’t work for me.
CHWM: So it’s
natural for you?
Action Bronson: It’s
natural.
CHWM: Has it always
been natural?
Action Bronson: I
don’t know. I just started, I just found out.
CHWM: You just started?
You had one hell of a year…
Action Bronson: I
pretty much just recently found out in the past five years that I could rap.
CHWM: Yeah I mean
2013 was huge for you.
Action Bronson: If
that was huge then fuck I need to be doing some work.
CHWM: So what’s
next?
Action Bronson: Work.
I’m touring a hell of a lot, I’m not gonna be home for like two months now. I
gotta turn in an album and get ready for that. Japan, Australia, New Zealand
twice, two different times. That fifteen-hour flight is not looking good right
now.
CHWM: Do you get
first class?
Action Bronson: Fuck
you think? You think I fly coach? No chance. I been flying first class for two
years now. I haven’t always had it, but now I have to fly first class. I need
fuckin’ famous chefs curating the menu on the flight.
CHWM: Give a
shoutout
Action Bronson: Shout
her, she’s the best. We out here.
Much love to Action Bronson for keeping it real and consistently putting out dope music. If you haven't already, download Blue Chips 2 now and check out the tour announcement video below.
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